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- Cementing T-frames? - With Jim Kennard's Answer

>It is much better to "cement in" the T posts at each end of the rows
so
they will last much longer.
>Cement much less an issue than using treated wood.
>Using cement around bottom of posts isolates the wood from rot from
contact with dirt and bugs can't penetrate thru concrete
>Good idea to dig the post hole a little deeper, throw in a little
gravel or
fist sized rock before inserting post to allow concrete to fully
surround bottom
of post
Steve in Oregon

THAT is VERY close to perfect. And having experience with
"professional"
fence installers, I can say, ought to be minimum, but often the work is
poorer.

Perfection requires that trhe wood be protected from the concrete,
during the period in which the cment is setting - typically a couple
hors, is done correctky, with mixed cement. A common and far poorer
method, adds a fence-post cement mix into the hole, dry, and counts on
rain to set 75% of the mix, which is "watered" at the finish of the
installer's day.

Wrap the post *tightley* with roofers felt. 15 or 30 lb. Tie VERY
tightly or "staple." Set atop the packed gravel.

BTW, I'm anal. I add and subtract gravel and hole depth so the post is
perfect and i never cut anything off of the treated ends of the posts.
Noone else does. You can. It's only time. It's yours. I do it for
others, ordinarily. I sure do it for myself. It's MY minimum. Why throw
out a factory-made protective layer?

All this said, I have had great & cheap results by adding portaland
cement in a 1/2 galllon amouint, mixing it in a post-holes mud, and
setting the post, in Germany, in a harsh environ - weather-wise and
harshness of duty - a Recreation Center - next to the Non-Comissioned
Officers Club... LOL!

THIS type of mix will be easier to break up if you ever plan to. I HATE
when fence installers try to leave the OLD posthole cement pours, in MY
garden - LOL! They don't break easily, if "poured correctly." The
cement will be slightly above soil level, & domed to shed water from
the post, showing at least 1/4" or roofers' felt.

BillSF9c

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